From help-octave-request at bevo dot che dot wisc dot edu Fri Nov 28 23:53:16 2003 Subject: Re: TR: [sciclub] Scilab news From: pkienzle at comcast dot net To: Agustin Barto Cc: Doug Stewart , help-octave@bevo.che.wisc.edu Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:53:06 +0000 I've removed the fork calls from the octave-2.1.50 distribution on octave-forge (http://octave.sf.net). I didn't like waiting ;-) I'm using it successfully on WindowsME, and I believe it works on Windows98. IIRC, the patches have been applied upstream, so any Octave 2.1.50 or above should work fine. Paul Kienzle pkienzle at users dot sf dot net > The headaches are not Octave's fault. Cygwin doesn't work well on > Windows9X/ME. I had problems with a lot of other programs that are based > on it. There's a long standing issue with fork() that looks like will > never be fixed. > > Given that all our computers are on Windows98 and ME we had no choice > but to drop Octave for Windows. Next year we'll try to get the teachers > and the students to use Linux, but it's going to be pretty hard. There > has been some "active resistance" against Linux that forced us to choose > SciLab, at least until the issues with these particular versions of > windows are solved, or until we upgrade our software (that will be an > extremely cold day in hell). > > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 08:28, Doug Stewart wrote: > > What are the Headaches? We should fix them. > > Doug Stewart > > > > > > Agustin Barto wrote: > > > > >We had a great two year run working with Octave after the local > > >authorities refused the funding for Matlab. Next year we'll be switching > > >to SciLab (the main reason is that the Windows version of Octave is > > >giving us a lot of headaches). This year we asked around and found out > > >that not only the introductory courses on programming were based on > > >Octave, but also numerical methods, some algebras and some advanced > > >electronics courses too (All of these used Matlab in the past). This was > > >much more than we expected. > > > > > >On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 18:40, Raymond E. Rogers wrote: > > > > > > > > >>$800 !!!!! At the insistence of my boss we just bought MatLab and a few > > >>packages for my work; for a grand total of about $8000. > > >>I tried to explain to him other options, Octave, J, SciLab; but various > > >>others are using Matlab so he went ahead. > > >> > > >>Ray > > >> > > >>Laurent Jacques wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>On Friday 28 November 2003 21:36, John W. Eaton wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>We run Octave but also Matlab in my lab (in a Belgian university) and this > > >>>year we had to add just one user to our Matlab network licence. Mathworks > > >>>refused to sell this separately but instead we had to buy a complete new > > >>>Matlab distribution (the same that we had) with a special new license file > > >>>allowing the new number of simultaneous users. > > >>>All that costs around 800 $ ! > > >>> > > >>>But we have to be happy, for industrial use it is worst. > > >>> > > >>>Laurent. > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Octave is freely available under the terms of the GNU GPL. > > > > > >Octave's home on the web: http://www.octave.org > > >How to fund new projects: http://www.octave.org/funding.html > > >Subscription information: http://www.octave.org/archive.html > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Octave is freely available under the terms of the GNU GPL. > > > > Octave's home on the web: http://www.octave.org > > How to fund new projects: http://www.octave.org/funding.html > > Subscription information: http://www.octave.org/archive.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Octave is freely available under the terms of the GNU GPL. > > Octave's home on the web: http://www.octave.org > How to fund new projects: http://www.octave.org/funding.html > Subscription information: http://www.octave.org/archive.html > ------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------- Octave is freely available under the terms of the GNU GPL. Octave's home on the web: http://www.octave.org How to fund new projects: http://www.octave.org/funding.html Subscription information: http://www.octave.org/archive.html -------------------------------------------------------------