From help-octave-request at bevo dot che dot wisc dot edu Fri Nov 14 21:05:59 2003 Subject: RE: 0^0 = ? From: Mike Miller To: Randy Gober cc: help-octave at bevo dot che dot wisc dot edu Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:05:51 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Randy Gober wrote: > Goldberg's proof is flawed. He writes that f(x)^g(x)= e^[g(x)log{f(x)}], but > f(x) = 0, => log(f(x)) = -inf > So g(x)log(f(x)) is a 0*inf form, which itself is indeterment. > > (similar problem with the limit at the end: lim(x->0) x*log(a_1*x) ) Randy-- Tell me if I'm wrong: x approaches zero quickly enough to offset the rate at which log(a*x) approaches -Inf. Let x=exp(y), then x*log(a_1*x) = exp(y)*(a_1 + y) What happens to that expression as y approaches -Inf? It seems to me that it approaches zero. Same for lim(x->0) x*log(a_1*x). What is lim(x->0) (x^2)*(1/x)? Is it 0*Inf, and therefore indeterminate? Of course not. It converges to zero. Mike Goldberg's proof: > http://docs.sun.com/source/806-3568/ncg_goldberg.html > > Here is the part we wanted to see: > > "In the case of 0^0, f(x)^g(x) = e^[g(x)log{f(x)}]. Since f and g are > analytic and take on the value 0 at 0, f(x) = a_1*x^1 + a_2*x^2 + ... and > g(x) = b_1*x^1 + b_2*x^2 + .... Thus lim(x->0) g(x)*log[f(x)] = > lim(x->0) x*log[x(a_1 + a_2*x + ...)] = lim(x->0) x*log(a_1*x) = 0. So > f(x)^g(x) -> e^0 = 1 for all f and g, which means that 0^0 = 1." ------------------------------------------------------------- Octave is freely available under the terms of the GNU GPL. Octave's home on the web: http://www.octave.org How to fund new projects: http://www.octave.org/funding.html Subscription information: http://www.octave.org/archive.html -------------------------------------------------------------