From owner-help-octave at bevo dot che dot wisc dot edu Thu Nov 30 14:47:09 1995 Subject: More Neural Network musings.. From: John Utz To: Octave Help List Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:47:02 -0800 (PST) Hi gang; As i mentioned in my previous letter, i am trying to use octave to solve dynamical systems and neural network problems. Both of these items are variations on systems of differential equations. One of the key techniques in looking at simple dymanical systems is the use of the phase plane. The phase plane display of a dynamical system will include locations called singularities. Singularities seem to present a problem for a numerical solver such as lsode and dassl. The problem with singularities is that they are the points in which a function under analysis will equal zero in the numerator ( not unusual in any way ) and 0 in the *denominator* ( this is usually construed as a Bad Thing (tm) ). the following is exerted from octave's online manual: { The function `dassl' can be used Solve DAEs of the form 0 = f (x-dot, x, t), x(t=0) = x_0, x-dot(t=0) = x-dot_0 dassl (FCN, X_0, XDOT_0, T_OUT, T_CRIT) ... The fifth argument is optional, and may be used to specify a set of times that the DAE solver should not integrate past. It is useful for avoiding difficulties with singularities and points where there is a discontinuity in the derivative. } Well, heck. In my case, i wish to eagerly seek out discontinuities and singularities! Worse yet. I want to plot them! Has anybody had any experience with this that they would like to share with me? ******************************************************************************* John Utz spaz at u dot washington dot edu idiocy is the impulse function in the convolution of life